Comments on: DHS dismisses the right to travel http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/ Challenging ID Demands Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:53:47 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Ramilka http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-32976 Ramilka Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:38:32 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-32976 You have a great web site! You have a great web site!

]]> By: Daniel http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-31173 Daniel Thu, 09 Aug 2007 04:19:49 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-31173 I couldn't understand some parts of this article DHS dismisses the right to travel, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting. I couldn’t understand some parts of this article DHS dismisses the right to travel, but I guess I just need to check some more resources regarding this, because it sounds interesting.

]]> By: DB http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-24052 DB Fri, 08 Jun 2007 14:22:08 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-24052 The mossbacks who wish this on the United States have absolutely no clue. First, the 9/11 terrorists had passports. So, we're going to enhance security by requiring that everyone else have passports too? Second, there are strong cross-border ties to which this law will be completely disruptive. How about I-Falls vs. Dryden in high school football? Imagine dealing with a school bus full of kids with passports? How about all the Canadians who come over to shop at Menards. Figure we'll see them anymore? Third, it completely violates the spirit of NAFTA, the idea of open and free trade and borders. With the Schengen agreement which means the same kind of database in Europe that Homeland Security is (trying) to set up here, the Europeans have used the opportunity to RELAX internal border controls, while focusing on the external borders (i.e. the edge of the EU). Why can't we do the same with Canada and Mexico and Bermuda? Heck of a lot easier to police Mexico's short southern border than its northern one, eh? The mossbacks who wish this on the United States have absolutely no clue. First, the 9/11 terrorists had passports. So, we’re going to enhance security by requiring that everyone else have passports too?

Second, there are strong cross-border ties to which this law will be completely disruptive. How about I-Falls vs. Dryden in high school football? Imagine dealing with a school bus full of kids with passports? How about all the Canadians who come over to shop at Menards. Figure we’ll see them anymore?

Third, it completely violates the spirit of NAFTA, the idea of open and free trade and borders. With the Schengen agreement which means the same kind of database in Europe that Homeland Security is (trying) to set up here, the Europeans have used the opportunity to RELAX internal border controls, while focusing on the external borders (i.e. the edge of the EU). Why can’t we do the same with Canada and Mexico and Bermuda? Heck of a lot easier to police Mexico’s short southern border than its northern one, eh?

]]> By: Steve Blues http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-9991 Steve Blues Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:15:37 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-9991 Does this apply for charter bus travel? I am taking a trip from detroit to toronto with 35 people. do they have to have anything special on them? Does this apply for charter bus travel? I am taking a trip from detroit to toronto with 35 people. do they have to have anything special on them?

]]> By: Papers, Please! » Blog Archive » New passport rules frustrate last-minute travelers http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-3056 Papers, Please! » Blog Archive » New passport rules frustrate last-minute travelers Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:52:17 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-3056 [...] The DHS dismissed our comments out of hand, in a response to comments published in the _Federal Register_ in November along with the final rule that goes into effect today: Comment [...] [...] The DHS dismissed our comments out of hand, in a response to comments published in the _Federal Register_ in November along with the final rule that goes into effect today: Comment [...]

]]> By: Frank http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-344 Frank Thu, 07 Dec 2006 20:13:41 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-344 You of all people should know how prevalent fraud is out there--and what easier document to alter or counterfeit than a birth certificate (which is now the only required document for citizens traveling to adjacent island destinations). Requiring a passport helps ensure that the person actually matches the document. Of course fraudulent passports are out there; but it's much harder to use a passport for an illegal entry into the U.S. (there are only a few types of U.S. passports) than it is to use a birth certificate (there are thousands of different types). I don't think presenting a passport is that onerous of a burden. Think about the alternative: anyone making a claim to U.S. citizenship is allowed entry into the U.S. This is what you're talking about if you want the freedom to travel internationally without I.D. Is that what you really want? I don't. You of all people should know how prevalent fraud is out there–and what easier document to alter or counterfeit than a birth certificate (which is now the only required document for citizens traveling to adjacent island destinations). Requiring a passport helps ensure that the person actually matches the document. Of course fraudulent passports are out there; but it’s much harder to use a passport for an illegal entry into the U.S. (there are only a few types of U.S. passports) than it is to use a birth certificate (there are thousands of different types). I don’t think presenting a passport is that onerous of a burden. Think about the alternative: anyone making a claim to U.S. citizenship is allowed entry into the U.S. This is what you’re talking about if you want the freedom to travel internationally without I.D. Is that what you really want? I don’t.

]]> By: Rachel http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-341 Rachel Thu, 07 Dec 2006 16:37:01 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-341 I've had the pleasure of traveling without ID for a bit now. I don't drive, ergo no state ID, I dont make it a habit of traveling with my pasport, ergo that form of ID. The most I have is a student ID in which anyone could make. Its silly. Let go and let live. I’ve had the pleasure of traveling without ID for a bit now. I don’t drive, ergo no state ID, I dont make it a habit of traveling with my pasport, ergo that form of ID. The most I have is a student ID in which anyone could make.

Its silly. Let go and let live.

]]> By: Anon http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-321 Anon Wed, 06 Dec 2006 02:02:58 +0000 http://papersplease.org/wp/2006/12/05/dhs-dismisses-the-right-to-travel/#comment-321 This really has to stop. It is time to start travel boycots at a minimum. Hit the Globalist Terrorists where it hurts. This is the same as Russia and East Germany. How many more "Laws" that Control us for "Our Safety" are the sheep of this country going to put up with? Welcome to AmeriKa This really has to stop. It is time to start travel boycots at a minimum. Hit the Globalist Terrorists where it hurts. This is the same as Russia and East Germany.

How many more “Laws” that Control us for “Our Safety” are the sheep of this country going to put up with?

Welcome to AmeriKa

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